Episode 10, December 9, 2016: The Ref

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It wouldn't be the holiday season if we didn't discuss Stephen King, semen, Juggalos, and cocaine. And, in Denis Leary's The Ref there is also burglary, hostages, and talk of divorce, just in time for Christmas.


Warning: Spoilers, adult humor, and harsh language ahead. Listen at your own risk.



Show Notes:


2DudeReview - Episode 10: The Ref

I. Introduction
- Discuss site, Twitter, etc.

Ia. Our bet for the picture

II. First Impressions of The Ref

III. Origin & tidbits

- Written by Richard LaGravenese with his sister-in-law Marie Weiss and inspired by their families.
- Weiss had the concept while arguing with her husband when she wished a third-party would come in and referee.
- LaGravenese's other notable screenplays were The Fisher King, The Bridges of Madison County, and The Horse Whisperer.
- Disney (Touchstone and Bueno Vista) approved the project within 20 minutes of the pitch.
- Ted Demme directed after directing Denis Leary MTV spots and his stand-up special, No Cure for Cancer.
- Demme would later go on to direct the acclaimed Johnny Depp movie, Blow.
- Demme died in 2002 at the age of 39 from a heart attack while playing a celebrity basketball game. They later found cocaine in his system which may have attributed to the heart attack.
- One year later, Leary would go on to play Lt. David Poole in Operation Dumbo Drop. A year later, Spacey would go on to playing Verbal in the Usual Suspects and John Doe in Se7en.
- Jesse (Robert J. Stenmiller Jr.) played Jack Leary the year before in Jack the Bear (sorry, Chad).
- The grandmother to Jesse was Glynis Johns who was born in South Africa in 1923 and first started acting in 1938 and was in such notable projects as 1939's The Fugitive, 1956's Around the World in Eighty Days, Mrs. Banks in Mary Poppins,and Lady Penelope Peasoup in the 60's Batman. She was divorced four times so maybe it wasn't such a stretch of a performance for her. As of December, 2016, she is still alive.
- Test audiences didn't like the original ending where Gus turns himself in to show Jesse that a life of crime doesn't pay so they reshot the ending in January, 1994, two months before its release. Demme would later regret this decision.
- The line, "lady, your husband ain't dead. He's hiding," is a quote from Abbott and Constello.

IV. Our notes on The Ref

V. How rotten is The Ref? The Ref was given an % by Rotten Tomatoes. Do the following films fall higher or lower than %?

VI. Mention next film, The Ref, plus reiterate the Web site and social media feeds

VII. Final Grade of A-F

Chad's Grade: B
Brian's Grade: A-
Karina's Grade: B+