Chad wears a dress and tries to redeem himself as we discuss John Connor's whininess, Schwarzenegger's pay day, and the non-stop car chase that is Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines.
Warning: Spoilers, adult humor, and harsh language ahead. Listen at your own risk.
2DudeReview - Episode 31: Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
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Ia. Our bet
II. First Impressions of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
III. Origin & tidbits
- Cameron wanted to do Terminator 3 in the 90's but never had a script for it. Then Carolco went bankrupt and their rights to the franchise went up for auction. This included 50% of the Terminator rights - Gale Ann Hurd had the other 50%.
- Cameron and 20th Century Fox wanted to make another movie and met with Hurd and Schwarzenegger about but production issues with Titanic ended the talks.
- Carolco founders Mario Kassar and Andrew Vajna ended up purchasing the rights for $7.5 million and would eventually purchase Hurd's as well to own the franchise and opened a new company called C2.
- The orignal script by Tedi Sarafian had an invisible Terminator come back to kill John Connor. Director Jonathan Mostow didn't like that concept (who would) and hired his buddies John Brancato and Michael Ferris to rework the script.
- Schwarzenegger initially turned down any involvment since Cameron wasn't involved. He tried to convince Cameron to come aboard as a producer but Cameron felt he told the complete story that he wanted to tell. But, Cameron did tell him he should sign on as long as he got paid at least $30 million for the role. He ended up getting very close to that ($29.25 million and 20% of the profits).
- When C2 asked to meet with Schwarzenegger, he thought it was about his run for governor of California. He would have postpone running to make the film (his last before he became governor). At times he would have journalists, politicians, and potential financial backers on set.
- Schwarzenegger worked out six months to get back into the same shape as Terminator 2 Arnold.
- They originally wanted Linda Hamilton to come back and then kill her off midway through the movie with no time to mourn her death so she declined and felt her character arc was complete with the first two films.
- Edward Furlong was originally planned to reprise his role as Connor but his drug problems prevented that from happening.
- Film cost $187 million and made $433 million.
- Schwarzenegger insisted Stan Winston return as head of digital effects.
- The original name of Kate's fiance was Scott Peterson. It was changed for obvious reasons (you know, him killing his pregnant wife and all in real life).
- Kristina Loken put on 15 pounds of muscle for the role and took mime classes to better play the Terminator T-X.
- Those of you who like The Nerdist podcast may remember that Chris Hardwick plays one of the engineers.
- Sophia Bush was originally supposed to play Kate Brewster but was replaced last minute by Claire Danes since Mostow thought Bush was too young for the part (and One Tree Hill needed her!)
- It's the last appearance of Earl Boen as Dr. Silberman. He goes on to do voice work after this movie.
IV. Points to discuss
- Did this movie do anything for the franchise or should they have left it at Terminator 2?
V. How rotten is The Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines? Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines was given an % by Rotten Tomatoes. Do the following films fall higher or lower than %?
VI. Mention next film, plus reiterate the Web site and social media feeds
VII. Final Grade of A-F
Chad's Grade: C+
Brian's Grade: C-
Karina's Grade: C