Episode 1 October 6, 2016: A Nightmare on Elm Street

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Leia, Brian's sixth month old puppy, guest hosts our first podcast. Find out what you may not have known about one of the most iconic movie villains of all-time. We also discover Brian has no knowledge of one of the world's most ruthless dictators and Chad has never viewed, what many have coined, 'the gayest horror movie of all time,' Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge.


Warning: Spoilers, adult humor, and harsh language ahead. Listen at your own risk.



Show Notes:


2DudeReview - Episode 1: A Nightmare on Elm Street

I. Introduction
- Discuss site, Twitter, etc.

II. First Impressions of Nightmare on Elm Street
- Made for 1.1 million, made that back first week (1.45 million). Made 24 million at the box office

III. Origin & tidbits
- "It was a series of articles in the LA Times, three small articles about men from South East Asia, who were from immigrant families and had died in the middle of nightmares and the paper never correlated them, never said, 'Hey, we've had another story like this."
- Authorities called the phenomenon Asian Death Syndrome
- Men fled to the US from war torn countries such as Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam were suffering nightmares and refused to sleep. Some died soon after. Ages were 19 to 57 and was said to be Sudden Unexpected Death Syndrome (SUDS) or Brugada Syndrome (BrS)
- SUDS was first noted in 1977 among Hmong refugees in the US. It was also noted in Singapore when a survey of records showed 230 otherwise healthy Thai men died suddenly in their sleep between 1982 and 1990. There has been study on it but there is no exact cause.
- BrS is a genetic disease. The average age is 41. Sudden death happens most often during sleep.
- The song "Dream Weaver" by Gary Wright gave Craven a setting to jump off from and influenced the synthesizer riff for the soundtrack. Gary Wright wrote the song based on a poem titled, "God! God! God!" whose premise is the concpet of the human mind controlling its own dreams. This, on top of the outbreak of cases of men dying in their sleep created NoES
- The original concept of Freddy came from a young Wes seeing an old man walking down a sidepath from the window of his house. The man stopped and looked up and him and walked off
- Originally Freddy was to be a child molester but changed to child murderer since there were a heavy dose of molestation cases around California at the time of production
- The name Freddy Krueger was named after a bully at school
- The sweater was based off of Plastic Man from DC Comics and the color scheme was from an article he read in Scientific American that red and green were the two most clashing colors to the human retina. Plastic Man was red and yellow
- The first studio that showed interest was Disney but of course that didn't work out
- New Line Cinema ended up taking it and rebuilt the company often referring to itself as "The House that Freddy Built". New Line started out as a distributor of movies to college campuses - Reefer Madness was their big hid before moving on to foreign and independent movies.
- The budget started out at 700k but ended up being 1.1 million. All investors backed out. Half the funding came from a Yugoslavian guy who had a girlfriend he wanted in the movies.
- Robert England took the gig as Freddy because it fit his schedule betwee the V miniseries and series
- Heather Langenkamp got the part of Nancy over 200+ actresses including Demi Moore, Courteney Cox, Tracey Gold, and Jennifer Grey. Craven wanted a non-Hollywood type for it
- Johnny Depp was friends with Jackie Earle Haley (who played Freddy in the reboot). The actor who played the coroner suggested Depp and gave his headshot. Craven's 14 year-old daughter picked out Depp's head shot because she thought he was beautiful. Others considered were Charlie Sheen (wanted too much money and possibly too much tiger blood), John Cusack, Nicolas Cage, C. Thomas Howell, and Keifer Sutherland. Depp was reportedly nervous. When they were at Tina's house playing with the sound cues he got flustered and Nancy and Tina's laughter was real at his expense.
- The fictional address of the house is 1428 Elm Street in Springwood, Ohio. I looked, it's not a real town. And if it were, I am willing to bet you won't find too many palm trees in Ohio like you see in some scenes in the film
- They used over 500 gallons of blood. The human body has roughly 1 and 1/4 gallons of blood so theoretically, 400+ people should have been killed in this film. In reality, it was just three or 166 gallons of blood per death. 300 gallons were used in the scene when Glen is killed in the blood volcano
- The concept of Freddy's facial features were based on photos of burn victim effect artist David Miller saw at UCLA Medical Center
- When questioned, Nancy said, "Rod's not a lunatic dad." Didn't he sneak up on his "friends" and then pull a switchblade on one of them. This is before he kidnaps Nancy. Uh. Yes. Rod is a fucking psycho
- Jsu Garcia (aka Nick Corr) played Rod Lane and snorted heroin in the bathroom between takes. He was high on heroin in the scene where he is talking to Nancy through the bars in the jail cell. Langenkamp noteed that in that scene his eyes were watery and not focused and thought he was giving the best performance of his life without knowing he was high
- When Nancy is running from Freddy after viewing Rod in the jail cell, she cut her foot and needed stitches. You can see her limping and when she is walking up the stairs made of goo (was actually pancake batter) you can glimpse a bandage on her foot. You can also see that Freddy is wearing a Michael Myers mask when he breaks through the window on the door
- The shot of Freddy going through the wall was done using spandex. In the reboot it is done with CGI, and I personally found it lackluster to the original effect
- What is real world and what isn't? For example, he sliced Tina's night gown in the beginning and that had cuts when she was awake. He slashed Nancy's pillow and only one feather remained, what happened to the rest of the feathers? He jumped through Nancy's door and shattered the mirror but it was back when she woke up. She pulled the hat out of her dream at the sleep clinic. The stairs didn't stay goo when she was awake. Freddy is on the phone when Nancy is awake. Seems to be some continuity errors or I'm just plain confused
- Craven's wife (at the time) was the nurse who is with Nancy when her hair turned white while being watched. The doctor was the voice of Roger Rabbit
- Freddy has under 7 minutes of screen time
- Tina's name is mentioned 39 times through the movie
- The shot towards the end of Freddy on fire and running up the stairs was done in one take
- One thing I never noticed when Glen dies he is listening to the radio on his headphones. The station is KRGR or Krueger without the vowels
- When Nancy tells her dad to break the door down in 20 minutes after she brings him from her nightmare, that is when there is 20 minutes left until the movie ends
- Speaking of this, Nancy says 20 minutes, then is able to chisel out the light bulb, add the fishing line and the sledgehammer and all the other Wile E Coyote booby traps, fall aslepp, find Freddy, pull him out of her dream in 20 minutes?!?!?!
- What in the absolute fuck is wrong with the cop that is standing on Glen's driveway watching Nancy's house? He had one job. She breaks the window on the door, she breaks another window, the house is on fire and smoke is billowing out. Sonbith then thinks maybe I should get her dad. You fucking think?!?!?!
- In the end scene, the covertible top came down faster than expected and the actor's reactions were real
- Craven wanted the end to be Heather boots Freddy from her life and goes to school the next day. Bob Shaye (producer) wanted an end similar to Friday the 13th and the ability for a sequel. He wanted to have Freddy pick up the kids in a car and drive off. The ending was their compormise. Craven said he regretted changing the ending. Shaye showed the film to his father who said the ending was weird. When Shaye explained the compromise his dad told him he had to change it. When he said that was impossible at that point his father yelled, while they were drinking in the bar, "you're going to fuck up this movie!" Personally, Craven and Shaye's dad were right.
- Craven didn't want to direct the sequel and received no money from them or from merchandising and got mad at New Line. Shaye was quoted, "nobody forced him to sign that contract." Years later Shaye reached out to Craven to do the last Elm Street movie which he accepted and was offered a cut of merchandising and sequels retroactively. Craven then referred to his own house as "the house that Freddy built" in reference to New Line
- Craven gave a nod to Sam Raimi by having Nancy watch Evil Dead when trying to stay awake in response to Raimi having a poster of the Hills Have Eyes (Craven movie) in the film
- The adults in the film are either absent, slutty, or alcoholics
- No one ever mentions Elm Street in the entire film
- The girl skipping rope was the daughter of the couple who owned the house used in the film as Tina's house

IV. Discuss Elm Street's role in the horror genre
- The concept of dying in your dreams kills you in real life
- Comparioson to Halloween, Friday the 13th and other genre related in late 70s/early 80s

V. Mention next film, Psycho, plus reiterate the Web site and social media feeds

VI. Final Grade of A-F

Chad's Grade: A
Brian's Grade: A+